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	<title>Comments on: Residential Housing To Drop Another 25%</title>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we will see a bottom until 2011.  I have written a few posts about it on my blog.

Nice to see some corroboration from you, EmptySpaces, since you are far closer to the market than I am.  It only makes sense that prices have to overshoot to the downside.  Its a mean-reverting series, so overshoots in one direction have to be offset in the other, and buyers simply have no incentive to purchase an asset with 4-9 times leverage when prices are falling because of the loss of equity.  This will only make sense when prices fall so low that investing for cash flow with modest leverage produces reasonable returns.

I do think we are headed for a Japan-like price deflation which is the usual aftermath of a major fall in leveraged asset prices and that this down cycle will be extremely bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we will see a bottom until 2011.  I have written a few posts about it on my blog.</p>
<p>Nice to see some corroboration from you, EmptySpaces, since you are far closer to the market than I am.  It only makes sense that prices have to overshoot to the downside.  Its a mean-reverting series, so overshoots in one direction have to be offset in the other, and buyers simply have no incentive to purchase an asset with 4-9 times leverage when prices are falling because of the loss of equity.  This will only make sense when prices fall so low that investing for cash flow with modest leverage produces reasonable returns.</p>
<p>I do think we are headed for a Japan-like price deflation which is the usual aftermath of a major fall in leveraged asset prices and that this down cycle will be extremely bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how it can bottom in 2008.  Despite lower rates, there are still not enough buyers and too much inventory (and phantom inventory).

Like increases, asset price declines tend to be self-reinforcing trends.  The more illiquid the asset, the longer the trend.  If stock markets have a 2 year down cycle after a major run-up (1973-1974, 2001-2003), housing seems likely to be down for 5-10 years (1988-1995).

If the banks continue to struggle with quarterly write-downs eliminating profits, credit will remain difficult to obtain for any but the most solid buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how it can bottom in 2008.  Despite lower rates, there are still not enough buyers and too much inventory (and phantom inventory).</p>
<p>Like increases, asset price declines tend to be self-reinforcing trends.  The more illiquid the asset, the longer the trend.  If stock markets have a 2 year down cycle after a major run-up (1973-1974, 2001-2003), housing seems likely to be down for 5-10 years (1988-1995).</p>
<p>If the banks continue to struggle with quarterly write-downs eliminating profits, credit will remain difficult to obtain for any but the most solid buyers.</p>
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		<title>By: H_Roarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>H_Roarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom will definately not be in 2008.  I would bet every last dollar I have on that.  

On top of that, even when the bottom hits, it&#039;s not going to bounce.  Historically, when real estate goes down, it stays down for a quite a while.  It does not move as fast as the stock market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom will definately not be in 2008.  I would bet every last dollar I have on that.  </p>
<p>On top of that, even when the bottom hits, it&#8217;s not going to bounce.  Historically, when real estate goes down, it stays down for a quite a while.  It does not move as fast as the stock market.</p>
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