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	<title>Comments on: How Paypal Condones Fraudulent Sellers</title>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://livingoffdividends.com/2008/02/25/how-paypal-condones-fraudulent-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-4274</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gawd.  I got charged four times in one month for two DVDs from Columbia House, via my debit card.  One of the charges expired before it went through;  three went through.  Columbia House played dumb.  With the last transaction they triggered some kind of internal alarm at PayPal, which promptly put a limitation on my account.  I can receive funds there but not send or withdraw them.  I took the steps they asked me to take to secure the account and prove I was who I said I was, and nothing, and it&#039;s been since Feb. 20.  I have emailed them twice now asking what else, if anything, I need to do.  No response.

Fortunately I only have about a dollar and change in that account because I&#039;m about to abandon it.  If it&#039;s got a limitation on it nobody can charge the debit card anyway.

It&#039;s weird because they used to be a lot more responsive when I had a question or an issue.  I&#039;ve had an account with them for six or seven years now and they&#039;ve made plenty of dough off me from my Premier account fees.  I don&#039;t know what they&#039;ve got stuck up their nether regions but they need to get over themselves.

There&#039;s at least one new competitor for PayPal now, but I forget what it&#039;s called.  Seems like half the PF blogosphere has its ads on their websites, though, and right now there&#039;s a $25 bonus for signing up.  Sending and receiving money is free.  Darned if I know how they&#039;re going to make any money at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gawd.  I got charged four times in one month for two DVDs from Columbia House, via my debit card.  One of the charges expired before it went through;  three went through.  Columbia House played dumb.  With the last transaction they triggered some kind of internal alarm at PayPal, which promptly put a limitation on my account.  I can receive funds there but not send or withdraw them.  I took the steps they asked me to take to secure the account and prove I was who I said I was, and nothing, and it&#8217;s been since Feb. 20.  I have emailed them twice now asking what else, if anything, I need to do.  No response.</p>
<p>Fortunately I only have about a dollar and change in that account because I&#8217;m about to abandon it.  If it&#8217;s got a limitation on it nobody can charge the debit card anyway.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s weird because they used to be a lot more responsive when I had a question or an issue.  I&#8217;ve had an account with them for six or seven years now and they&#8217;ve made plenty of dough off me from my Premier account fees.  I don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;ve got stuck up their nether regions but they need to get over themselves.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s at least one new competitor for PayPal now, but I forget what it&#8217;s called.  Seems like half the PF blogosphere has its ads on their websites, though, and right now there&#8217;s a $25 bonus for signing up.  Sending and receiving money is free.  Darned if I know how they&#8217;re going to make any money at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Monevator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monevator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about your loss. Paypal does seem to live in a strange no man&#039;s land.

On the other hand, it can be almost as bad when such sites crack down too heavily in favour of protecting the buyer. I had problems recently when I opened a new eBay account to clear out some space in my office. Apparently, the goods I was selling (games, dvds, other pirateable goods) were flagged in its system as fraudulent (because I didn&#039;t have a long history I guess) so they suspended the auctions immediately. There is a lengthy appeals procedure, but it seems quite time consuming just to make 100 bucks.

So getting the balance in this wired world of ours isn&#039;t easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about your loss. Paypal does seem to live in a strange no man&#8217;s land.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it can be almost as bad when such sites crack down too heavily in favour of protecting the buyer. I had problems recently when I opened a new eBay account to clear out some space in my office. Apparently, the goods I was selling (games, dvds, other pirateable goods) were flagged in its system as fraudulent (because I didn&#8217;t have a long history I guess) so they suspended the auctions immediately. There is a lengthy appeals procedure, but it seems quite time consuming just to make 100 bucks.</p>
<p>So getting the balance in this wired world of ours isn&#8217;t easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Hustle Strategy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hustle Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any real substitutes to paypal?  BTW, there was some code floating around wickedfire for a while to do this, not sure if it is still there or if it worked either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any real substitutes to paypal?  BTW, there was some code floating around wickedfire for a while to do this, not sure if it is still there or if it worked either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dough Roller</title>
		<link>http://livingoffdividends.com/2008/02/25/how-paypal-condones-fraudulent-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-3691</link>
		<dc:creator>Dough Roller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As frustrating as this situation is, I&#039;m not sure what PayPal can really do about it.  Are they in a position to judge the quality of code or anything else that&#039;s bought and sold using their services?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As frustrating as this situation is, I&#8217;m not sure what PayPal can really do about it.  Are they in a position to judge the quality of code or anything else that&#8217;s bought and sold using their services?</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://livingoffdividends.com/2008/02/25/how-paypal-condones-fraudulent-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-3672</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik: Please don&#039;t confuse Paypal with a credit card company.

Credit card companies are, for the most part, covered by some quite strict consumer laws. Although the merchant still gets screwed in a chargeback situation, the consumer is well protected and the CC companies have to answer to a regulatory body.

Paypal is an entirely unregulated beast who can do whatever they please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik: Please don&#8217;t confuse Paypal with a credit card company.</p>
<p>Credit card companies are, for the most part, covered by some quite strict consumer laws. Although the merchant still gets screwed in a chargeback situation, the consumer is well protected and the CC companies have to answer to a regulatory body.</p>
<p>Paypal is an entirely unregulated beast who can do whatever they please.</p>
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