Peter Schiff: Dollar Is The Next Bubble To Collapse
Here’s an excellent video starring Peter Schiff. He predicts that the US Dollar will be the next bubble to burst. As a corrollary, I think gold will be the next bubble. The dollar collapse seems unlikely, you say? Well he did predict the collapse of the housing market 4 years ago and was met with wide-spread ridicule.
Like I’ve been saying for ages, make sure you buy some gold coins. Silver coins aren’t bad either.
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February 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 am
Lots of people predicted the collapse of the housing market 4 years ago, including you and me. That was no great feat. The bubble was as clear as could be for a market that always clicked away at 2-3% a year in appreciation.
The big question that Peter Schiff and other “dollar collapse” prognosticators have to answer is: collapse against what? The collapse has to be relative to some other currency. What other currency is in a position to pick up all the lost interest in the US dollar? Euro? No way. The Euro may not even survive the next 10 years. The Chinese Remnibi or the Japanese Yen? Both those economies are export driven and have to protect the value of their currency against the dollar (that is they closet index by buying dollars and selling their own currency).
This would leave gold. Is there enough gold in the world to substitute for all the rest of the world currencies? NO! (But I admit there may be some effort to try to substitute, which is why I think there could be a SHORT TERM bubble in gold. I do agree with that forecast).
Until China decides it doesn’t need to export to America to grow its economy and placate its people (hundreds of millions still looking to get out of subsistence farming), the Remnibi has no chance to become the next world reserve currency, which would then clear the way for a dollar collapse (probably not in my lifetime).
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
is he a gold bug?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Schiff is even more an Asian economy and hard asset bug. But he does like gold, too. He has very similar opinions to Jim Rogers and has been wrong on commodities the past six months and I am sure, has lost his clients a lot of money.
I think the Asian and hard asset theses are okay for the next 10 years, but he overdoes the anti-America hype and comes off as a whiner.
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
peter schiff is great and only one of the few people on tv who actully has a clue with whats happening
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
In reply to Brian McMorris’s comment “The Chinese Remnibi or the Japanese Yen? Both those economies are export driven and have to protect the value of their currency against the dollar…”
China’s exports is abour 40% of GDP, but Japan’s is only 16% I believe. I don’t know if that affects your conclusions.
My gut says that there will eventually be a dollar crisis, and a gold rush will result from it. I’m just curious to see if the DJIA / gold ratio gets close to 1:1. It’s already down to about 8.5:1 Was at 43:1 in 2000. It hit 1:1 in the 30s and in ‘82.
February 3rd, 2009 at 7:21 am
Hi Gavin…I always enjoy a factual response to any of my posts. You are correct, Japan is not the exporter that most of us imagine. Your figure of 16% is probably correct. I have not found an exact figure for 2008, but it is in the historical ballpark:
http://www.photius.com/countries/japan/economy/japan_economy_exports.html
But my point is that Japan and China do not seem to have what the world wants from a country with a reserve currency AS OF TODAY. Japan will probably never have it. It is too small a country geographically with almost no natural resources. It is my theory that reserve currencies must be backed by physical assets (whether gold, real estate or raw materials). Japan has little.
Consider the era when Spain was the global power. This was the time when they were plundering South and Central America for gold and silver. Why? To make nice crowns? No. Because the backing of those hard assets allowed the Spanish currency to become the global reserve currency which enhanced the wealth and power of Spain. This continued until the Spanish Armada was sunk by the British under Sir Francis Drake in 1588. At that time, Spain lost its world leading power since it has few of its own natural resources to fall back upon, but continues to do okay as a nation, almost 500 year later.
This is a lesson for us: not that we will cease to exist as a nation the day we lose reserve currency status, but that life will change a little. Still, I don’t see this happening in my lifetime because I think the torch will eventually pass to China and they won’t be ready until they complete their “industrial revolution” (ala America in the early 1900s).
All this said, I really don’t have any problem with the idea of a 1:1 relationship between the stock market and gold, as the product of a speculative bubble in gold. I even expect it to happen the next 2-5 years (once the economy gets rolling again). But as in 1980, it will be very short-lived and many will get caught thinking gold is a new paradigm. And as in 1980, the popping of the gold bubble will result in economic distress as the market tries to find its way (we had a severe recession between 1980 and 1982 which was precipitated by the popping of the precious metals and oil bubbles).
February 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I agree with some of Brian’s points above. As much as I would like the US dollar to collapse just for moral reasons (it really bothers me that better-run economies and financial systems like Canada’s aren’t being recognized) to some extent, it is true that USD is going to have to fall against something. That is, other currencies are going to have to be considered worth more than the USD. If everyone’s inflating, this may not happen.
But again, what’s up with the low Canadian dollar? We are one of the few countries to have not inflated our monetary base by printing more dollars. At least… this hasn’t happened yet. Plus we have the soundest banking system in the world now…. oh well I guess it’ll be my well kept secret:)
February 6th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Hey MoneyPost…great post (because you agree with me ;o)
Yes, you are right. It is ironic that Canada (you must be Canadian?) is more fiscally conservative and your dollar goes down against ours. But I really admire the Canadian economy and value system. It is like the best of America, but avoids most of our pitfalls (I think coalition driven Parliamentary systems, with the option of “confidence votes”, may have an advantage over our two party winner-takes-all system that inherently polarizes politics).
Because, I feel as you do, that the Canadian economy is more stable than the American, I have almost half my investments in Canada, mostly in the Canroys (Canadian Royalty Trusts, as you know). The decline in the loonie versus the USD has hurt me the past few months. The reason for this is the decline in commodity prices (Canada is a net exporter of commodities and energy, so the strength of those markets affects Canadian balance of trade, which affects relative currency values). Also, the USD is the world reserve currency and the loonie is not. No justification is necessary. It is what it is.
But longer term, I like the prospects for the Canadian dollar and the energy and commodity plays in Canada. Once there is global economic recovery, the monetary expansion to get out of the crisis MUST be inflationary which ALWAYS benefits hard assets, by definition.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:21 am
do you guys have any opinion on Australian economy and the strength/weakness of the AUD?
February 6th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I have investments in Australia. It is a lot like Canada. It is natural resource driven with a solid democratic (parliamentary) government, hard working and individualistic people. The currency does well when commodities do well. BHP is based there and FCX has a lot of operations there. Australia is a commodity source for Asia, so is in the right place for the next few decades.
February 7th, 2009 at 5:29 am
Gold is partly strong for the same reason as the dollar – global uncertainty. If/when the economic situation calms down, you may find it moves down even as the dollar declines.
Not saying there aren’t other factors (future inflation etc) but definitely in the mix.
February 7th, 2009 at 11:49 am
In November & December 2007, I cashed in my stocks and transferred some into silver bullion held in a retirement. It was one of the better financial moves I’ve made. We’ll see how everything plays out.
February 7th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I have a real treat for the regular readers here. I found in today’s Barrons a great interview with Ray Dalio. He has been as prescient as anyone on the economy and housing bust (Grantham, Faber, Schiff, Hickey, Jim Rogers, Doug Kass, Bill Fleckenstein, whoever). And unlike some of those (Faber, Rogers, Schiff), he did not get crushed last year by overplaying the demise of the dollar. His funds returned 8-10% (boy, I wish I was 100% invested with him).
Rather than put the entire blog I just posted here, I will give you a link to it. I promise, all of you who are anti-dollar and pro-gold will love this piece:
http://wealth-ed.blogspot.com/2009/02/fixing-deflation-most-intelligent.html
February 10th, 2009 at 6:48 am
In reply to Brian’s comments: May I ask you – what you really believe will happen with the dollar? Would it stay on its current position of 1.30 to the Euro, or it will gradually fall or rise? What I mean, is would you rather think that these statements about the collapse of the dollar are being made, because economists really believe it will, or because Wall Street’s finest want people to believe it to make a nice profit. It’s just like the other time, when Citigroup predicted gold would hit $2000 per ounce by the end of 2009. Maybe they have a lot of gold, that want to dump at high prices? (I don’t want to look like a controversy theory believer though))
February 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Andrei
Currencies move in unpredictable ways against each other, which is why traders love them so much. But on a longer term basis, it seems to me that Europe is no better off than America where the economic variables are concerned (aging population, lots of social equity costs like national healthcare and pension programs, mature infrastructure, higher cost labor, lack of new natural resources, etc.
The European Union has tried to compensate for its natural weaknesses by requiring all its members to be fiscally conservative. But it is impossible to keep all the sovereign governments with their own constituent demands on the same page. This creates uncertainty around the stability of the EU, which hurts its relative currency valuation.
So, I think both the USD and Euro will be under pressure the next few years, but it is highly unlikely the Euro will pull ahead of where it currently is against the USD (1.30) for any lengthy period of time.
February 11th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
LivingoffDividends,
I don’t know much about the Australian dollar except that its economy is similar to Canada’s, and that the AUS seems to fare worse against the USD than the loonie does. These past few months the AUS has always dropped more than the loonie, don’t know why. Of course, Canada is a seriously major exporter of oil to the US (another fact not mentioned often in the media, which puts all the attention on Venezuela and the middle east). I don’t think Australia exports oil, or at least not much.
February 11th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Do you guys know Jeff Rubin of CIBC Markets Canada? He’s a major economy analyst, kind of a mini-Canadian-business-celebrity who is seriously bullish on oil going forward. The talk in Canada is just when the heck our loonie is finally going to get the attention it deserves and when oil will stabilize back above $55/barrel, because that’s the number needed to keep profitability for the oil trusts.
February 14th, 2009 at 5:28 am
Interesting that other than a veiled reference to “fiscally conservative” EU countries, no one here is talking about a very key component of what makes for a reserve currency: the country involved has to live within its means. What China and Japan have in common is that they consume less than they produce; and the EU, though it isn’t quite there comes a lot closer than the US does. And all three represent huge populations, and in the case of Japan and the EU, relatively wealthy populations.
And even aside from the issue of which currency will be the “reserve” currency, the USD certainly can, in theory, decline against other currencies even if they are from economies too small to qualify them as a “reserve” currency. There is no inherent reason that over the next 10 years the USD can’t decline against the Australian dollar, the Canadian dollar, the Swiss Franc, the Won, and (if HK changes its peg) the HK dollar, even though none of these will become the reserve currency. And if the USD does decline against these currencies, then obviously an American would be better off holding these currencies than holding the USD.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 am
As a small-time investor without the know-how to invest directly in a foreign market (and without the funds to do so economically if I did know how), wouldn’t it be almost the same thing to invest in an ETF that directly invests in a foreign market?
For example, if I wanted to invest in Canada, but I don’t have the ability to buy stocks on the TSE, wouldn’t a fund like EWC do the same thing? And a fund like FXC would be like holding Canadian dollars.
And you could do the same thing with many countries.
Or does anyone have a better idea?