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	<title>Comments on: The End of Cheap $1000 Gold?</title>
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		<title>By: Mark L.</title>
		<link>http://livingoffdividends.com/2009/03/26/the-end-of-cheap-1000-gold/comment-page-1/#comment-180278</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, your analysis is not accurate. Gold was still linked to the US dollar until Nixon took the nation of the Gold Standard in 1971.

Another problem with your analysis is that there was no such thing as a Dow index stock (or ETF) in 1932. The Dows is an index that is currently comprised of 30 publicly traded companies most of which were not part of the index back in 1932.
This is the list of the Dow components in 1932:
Allied Chemical 	
General Electric Company 	
Nash Motors *
American Can 	
General Foods 	
Procter &amp; Gamble Company *
American Smelting 	
General Motors Corporation 	
Sears Roebuck &amp; Company
American Tobacco B * 	
Goodyear 	
Standard Oil of California
Bethlehem Steel 	
International Business Machines * 	
Standard Oil (NJ)
Borden 	
International Harvester 	
Texas Company
Chrysler 	
International Nickel 	
Union Carbide
Coca-Cola Company * 	
International Shoe * 	
U.S. Steel
Drug Incorporated * 	
Johns-Manville 	
Westinghouse Electric
Eastman Kodak Company 	
Loew&#039;s * 	
Woolworth

Many of these companies no longer exists, and even some that still do, have been though bankruptcy which mean that the shareholders were wiped out.

Still, Gold is considered a wealth preserver not an investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, your analysis is not accurate. Gold was still linked to the US dollar until Nixon took the nation of the Gold Standard in 1971.</p>
<p>Another problem with your analysis is that there was no such thing as a Dow index stock (or ETF) in 1932. The Dows is an index that is currently comprised of 30 publicly traded companies most of which were not part of the index back in 1932.<br />
This is the list of the Dow components in 1932:<br />
Allied Chemical<br />
General Electric Company<br />
Nash Motors *<br />
American Can<br />
General Foods<br />
Procter &amp; Gamble Company *<br />
American Smelting<br />
General Motors Corporation<br />
Sears Roebuck &amp; Company<br />
American Tobacco B *<br />
Goodyear<br />
Standard Oil of California<br />
Bethlehem Steel<br />
International Business Machines *<br />
Standard Oil (NJ)<br />
Borden<br />
International Harvester<br />
Texas Company<br />
Chrysler<br />
International Nickel<br />
Union Carbide<br />
Coca-Cola Company *<br />
International Shoe *<br />
U.S. Steel<br />
Drug Incorporated *<br />
Johns-Manville<br />
Westinghouse Electric<br />
Eastman Kodak Company<br />
Loew&#8217;s *<br />
Woolworth</p>
<p>Many of these companies no longer exists, and even some that still do, have been though bankruptcy which mean that the shareholders were wiped out.</p>
<p>Still, Gold is considered a wealth preserver not an investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Gold IRA Investing</title>
		<link>http://livingoffdividends.com/2009/03/26/the-end-of-cheap-1000-gold/comment-page-1/#comment-81455</link>
		<dc:creator>Gold IRA Investing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more. The perfect time to buy gold is when the economy is unstable. Nicely done on the prediction.
-Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. The perfect time to buy gold is when the economy is unstable. Nicely done on the prediction.<br />
-Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://livingoffdividends.com/2009/03/26/the-end-of-cheap-1000-gold/comment-page-1/#comment-41913</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nirav,  Bruce&#039;s case for gold is off base.  I do agree that gold is a good diversifier in the short term.  But its benefit is to protect against an economic calamity, not to provide a long term gain.  By going back to 1932 and $20 gold (which became $35 gold in 1933), Bruce just makes the case against owning gold, not for it.  

Had one bought the Dow index as stock in 1932, denominated in US dollars, that stock would have appreciated as an asset from $40 at its low, to $8000 today, which is almost 10 times the dollar return of gold (had one been really fortunate or very good at trading, that stock could have been sold for $14,000 in 2007, but that is a different story).  In addition, dividends on the Dow index would have returned another 5% annually on average, which over 80 years provides another multiple return of 32 times, using the Rule of 72 for compounding.  This makes the total appreciation of Dow stock, 32 x 200 = 6400 times return while gold returned 40 times.  The reason for this discrepancy: Gold is a non-productive asset and does not generate any dividends or interest.  In fact, physical gold must be stored and protected and can actually cost from 1-2% of its value every year.  

So, the long term (80 year) case for gold is very poor.  Even a high degree of inflation will be adjusted over time by equally higher wages (wages are a component of inflation, after all).  Other assets, like real estate, commodities and stock will also adjust to offset the effects of inflation over time.  But I do acknowledge that there is a prospect of inflation in the near term that might provide a case for gold as a Speculation.  That is much different than gold as a diversifier.   

I do not begrudge anyone their pleasure.  If owning gold gives pleasure, then buy some.  But it should not be mistaken as an investment because it is not.  We are just now getting into a position to have something of a repeat of the 1932 to 2007 equity scenario after suffering the greatest economic decline since the Great Depression.  Now would be a great time to put everything into stocks.  And if one is worried about inflation, skew the asset allocation towards Basic Industrial Materials, Energy and Ag Commodities, all real assets which will appreciate at least as fast as inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nirav,  Bruce&#8217;s case for gold is off base.  I do agree that gold is a good diversifier in the short term.  But its benefit is to protect against an economic calamity, not to provide a long term gain.  By going back to 1932 and $20 gold (which became $35 gold in 1933), Bruce just makes the case against owning gold, not for it.  </p>
<p>Had one bought the Dow index as stock in 1932, denominated in US dollars, that stock would have appreciated as an asset from $40 at its low, to $8000 today, which is almost 10 times the dollar return of gold (had one been really fortunate or very good at trading, that stock could have been sold for $14,000 in 2007, but that is a different story).  In addition, dividends on the Dow index would have returned another 5% annually on average, which over 80 years provides another multiple return of 32 times, using the Rule of 72 for compounding.  This makes the total appreciation of Dow stock, 32 x 200 = 6400 times return while gold returned 40 times.  The reason for this discrepancy: Gold is a non-productive asset and does not generate any dividends or interest.  In fact, physical gold must be stored and protected and can actually cost from 1-2% of its value every year.  </p>
<p>So, the long term (80 year) case for gold is very poor.  Even a high degree of inflation will be adjusted over time by equally higher wages (wages are a component of inflation, after all).  Other assets, like real estate, commodities and stock will also adjust to offset the effects of inflation over time.  But I do acknowledge that there is a prospect of inflation in the near term that might provide a case for gold as a Speculation.  That is much different than gold as a diversifier.   </p>
<p>I do not begrudge anyone their pleasure.  If owning gold gives pleasure, then buy some.  But it should not be mistaken as an investment because it is not.  We are just now getting into a position to have something of a repeat of the 1932 to 2007 equity scenario after suffering the greatest economic decline since the Great Depression.  Now would be a great time to put everything into stocks.  And if one is worried about inflation, skew the asset allocation towards Basic Industrial Materials, Energy and Ag Commodities, all real assets which will appreciate at least as fast as inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$20- $920 for gold?  $20 invested in stocks would have yielded around $30,000.  Doesn&#039;t seem that great to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$20- $920 for gold?  $20 invested in stocks would have yielded around $30,000.  Doesn&#8217;t seem that great to me.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow you are trying hard to promote your site and starting to sell coins. you lost your credibility. just unsubscribed your feed. so long..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow you are trying hard to promote your site and starting to sell coins. you lost your credibility. just unsubscribed your feed. so long..</p>
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